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Diantha:
Marilyn Webber asked me to respond to your Genforum inquire about Prentiss Glazier's report. According to his index page Glazier sent copies to the following locations. New York Gen. Biog. Society, Allen Copunty and Fort Wayune Library, Connecticut State Library, Godfrey Memorial Library, Syracuse Public Library, Western Reserve Historical So. It is a type written report, researched by a number of people and coordinated by Glazier. The purpose for doing the research and writing the report was an attempt to straighten out the confusion in the New Enland Webber family groups. Following are a few pages that I typed from the report.
Kurt
WEBBER
FAMILIES
(Early Mass. + Maine)
Table of Contents:
Preface.........................................................................................................................A
Bibliography: References, Explanations and Suggestions..........................................B
Webber Families of Early New England....................................................................C
Charles5 Webber (Thomas1 Webber Family)..............................................................C1&C2
Thomas1 Webber of Maine & Massachusetts, (Partial genealogy).............................1-12
Thomas1 Webber of Maine & Massachusetts, (Index)...............................................13-15
Samuel2 Webber (Thomas1) of York, Maine: Desc. And Miscellany.........................17-24
Samuel2 Webber (Thomas1) of York, Maine: (Index).................................................24-26
Webber Families of Main in 1790: Census Analysis..................................................26-27
Map: Towns in Main associated with early Webber families...................................28
Michael Webber of Falmouth, Main, and of Gloucester, Mass..................................29-32
Michael Webber of Falmouth, Main, and of Gloucester, Mass (Index).................... 33
Map: Towns in Massachusetts Associated with early Webbed families...................34
Webber Households in Massachusetts in 1790: Census Analysis...............................35-39
John, Edward & Richard Webber of Ipswich area (Charts A & B)............................40-41
John, Edward & Richard Webber of Ipswich area (Desc. & Index)...........................42-53
Webber Families in New Hampshire in 1790: Census Analysis................................54
Richard Webber of Main & of Marblehead, (Desc. & Index)...................................55-62
Webber Families of Mass. Additions and Miscellany................................................63-64
Webber Individuals in early Boston records...............................................................64-66
Thomas Webber of Maine: English origin, (Bideford, Devon)..................................67
Webber Records in Tiverton, Devon, (perhaps relevant to Michael).........................68
Webber Records in Stepney, Middlesex (John SR. and others).................................69-70
Webber Families: Supplement, (Eugene Prescott Webber Rec.s, Notes & Index).....S-1-56
Summary and Acknowledgments................................................................................S-57
Eugene Prescott Webber Records Index (with notes added by Prentiss Glazier) .....S-56-61
The above page numbers refer to those circled in the text, at each upper corner. Each group’s “genealogy” is individually page-numbered, and so indexed. This typescript will be photo-copied in Nov. 1977 and sets will be looseleaf bound, available on Loan basis to Libraries wishing to reproduce the material. Predicably, they will be found at the following institutions:
New York Gen. & Biog. Society, 122 E. 58th Street, New York City 10022
Allen County and Fort Wayne Library, 900 Webster St., Fort Wayne, Ind. 46802
Connecticut State Library, Capitol Ave.., Hartford, Conn. 06115
Godfrey Memorial Library, Newfield Street, Middletown, Conn.
Syracuse Public Library, Syracuse, N.Y. 13202
Western Reserve Historical Soc., 10325 East Boulevard, Cleveland, Ohio 44106
Prentiss Glazier, Sr., 5235 Royal Palm Ave., Sarasota, Fla. 33580 March 1977
(Rev. Oct. 1977)
WEBBER Families of Early Massachusetts and Maine
(Foreword)
These WEBBER Notes do not constitute a Genealogy; rather, they are a collection of typescripts started in October, 1976, from notes collected quite a number of years ago, in Connecticut. Each of the intervening eleven months brought more material, and the “WEBBER Project” grew like a giant genealogical mushroom. The original objective --- to define some of the lines descending from THOMAS WEBBER ---was enlarged, step by step, first to include the York, Maine, branch of SAMUEL, then to attempt to encompass the other three major WEBBER groups as well.
IMPORTANT (to the reader): there have been countless revisions, corrections, additions, etc., --- with some passages re-typed as insertions (pasted over the original text). Some sections have been superceded by subsequent findings; for example, a third version of the family of WAITSTILL of York and Harpswell appears in the 56-page SUPPLEMENT, (indexed). Our earnest efforts to proofread the resultant “patchwork” may not have been completely effectual, we CAUTION; when discrepancies occur, they should be thoroughly re-examined.
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Several capable genealogists have tried to dissolve the mists enshrouding the early WEBBER family groups, over a period of many years and with limited success. The late Col. Banks, eminent in Angle-American research (and a desc. Of THOMAS), left inconclusive notes; Mrs. Mabel Hinckley compiled the “Thomas Webber” _______, not knowing that actually she was from the Ipswich family; the late Walter Goodwin Davis never pursued his own WEBBER line successfully, and the long-deceased Eugene Prescott Webber did not find his line of descent from THOMAS while amassing his hug WEBBER collection, (EPW in these papers). It is a great satisfaction to report that these puzzles seem to have been solved, as will appear.
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THOMAS WEBBER was a native of Bideford, Co. Devon,----his 1629 baptismal records having been found in June, 1976.
MICHAEL WEBBER was probably also from Devonshire, perhaps either Tiverton or Exeter, (each town had an earlier MICHAEL).
JOHN WEBBER and wife Sarah of “Limehouse” had their son JOHN Jr. bp. 1628 in the adjacent parish of Stepney. This June 1977 discovery brings a clear perspective, and confirming our previous speculations. The father, a mariner, owned land at Marblehead prior to 1650, when his widow, of “Limehouse”, conveyed the property, JOHN Jr. was prob. In Boston by 1652, and a shipmaster at Charleston at Charlestown in 1664; he projects as prob. gr. father of the tgrio settling at Ipswich.
RICHARD WEBBER, (settler at Marblehead, and b. probably. ab. 1641), may therefore hve been a younger son (or perhaps grandson) of the first JOHN. Since Capt. THOS of Boston (and w. Sarah) had also had Stephey associations, we may assume close kinship tot he older JOHN, -----older son, or younger brother of JOHN?
RICHARD WEBBER (con’t)
“Family tradition” claims origin from Cornwall, (the shire west of Deven) and there is a strong possibility that the London-area family had in fact come from either shire,--there were many very early WEBBERS in both.
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WARNING: the supposed “descent from Wolfert Webber” (Dutch), is utterly impossible. This myth was first propounded in Button’s “Webber Families”; most unfortunately, it was echoed by later genealogist, (who should have know better).
WEBBER Familes of Early Massachusetts and Maine
(Bibliography, Explanations and Suggestions)
Genealogical Dictionary of Maine & N.H., joint production of LIBBY, Moyes and Davis, (referred to in these papers as “LIBBY”; an excellent work, but with some errors). Xeroxed copy of the WEBBER section has been used in our compilation.
SAVAGE: Gen. Dict. Of New England: Ancient (and worthy) reference, with some understandable lapses. Xeroxed Copy of WEBBER section has been used here.
CUTTER: Families of Boston & Eastern Mass. (Not available here).
CUTTER: Familes of Middlesex Co. Mass, (ditto)
CUTTER: New England Families: Desc. (not anc.) Of Col Christopher Webber.
History of Holland, Mass.: earnest effort to define the Ipswich and Marblehead groups, but showing some confusions and errors.
Mass. Vital Records, (published), not available here, --should be helpful.
N.E.H.G. Register: Numerous — but far from all ---volumes consulted.
Maine Wills, (published). Not available here, ---should be helpful.
York, Maine Deeds, (published) Some notations used in this work.
Banks Ms. (Unpublished), by the late Col. Char. E. Banks, (“CEB), in the Bangor Public Library; Xerox copies of first six pages are at hand. There were some confusions and lapses. He was descendent from THOMAS.
Thomas Webber of Maine, (mimeo); work by Mrs. Mabel Hinckley, termed “____” in these papers. A copy was borrowed from Floradia State Library’s Inter-library loan.
Putnam’s History Magazine; containing WEBBER references, Ipswich & Marblehead areas.
Perley: Salem _____. A good work, ----few WEBBER references. 2/3 errors.
Descendents of MICHAEL WEBBER, (Gloucester), 1936. Good, but with two bad ERRORS. Suggested for further research, (but not available here).
Bangor Historical Magazine; (not available here). This should be gleaned.
Maine Historical General Records (ditto)
Vital Records (of Maine). A few towns in Maine have had vital records published. There is a far from complete vital record index in the office of the Secretary of State, Augusta.
MUCH remains to be done --- by those who care enough to PROBE. Land and Probate records in each County might divulge information not in any published work, and not obtainable except by ORIGINAL RESEARCH.
__________: Index to Genealogical Publications, (vol.s 1-2), is a valuable aid; in its Place section, it indicates where many records have been published.
American Genealogist (“TAG”, long outstanding, has very few WEBBER references.
BUTTON: “Several Branches of the WEBBER Family” (1887). The compiler of this ancient work was obsessed with the “Wolfert Webber” myth, --echoed by others, unfortunately. A few items emerge from the hodge-podge, however.
WEBBER RECORDS, by the late E. P. WEBBER, (1842-1911). The bound volume of his research, ---tyuped in 1936, with additions, is with the Maine State Library at Augusta. This 230-page work is quite the most informative collection of WEBBER data seen, and prompted out 56-page SUPPLEMENT, (Additions, Corrections, etc.), based on “EPW” in relation to other sources. DAR & NEHGS may have copies.
SINNOTT, Rev. Chars. “Webber Genealogy”. In early typescript from --copies understood to be in several libraries. (NEHGS and others).
WEBBER FAMILY OF MAINE, (“WFM”) in these papers). Memeographed work by the late Mrs. Alice Webber Child, typed in 1940. Helpful, with limited coverage of lines of THOMAS.
Prentiss Glazier, Sr., 5235 Royal Palm Ave., Sarasota, Fla. 33580 March 1977
Page 28
Towns in Maine, Associated With Early WEBBER Families
Using a modern road-map, we try to indicate (in relation to one another) the towns in which early WEBBER families are know to have lived. This should be used in connection with our 1790 MAINE CENSUS ANALYSIS, which precedes. There will be explanatory notes below. No attempt to trace the very irregular coast line will be made here; generally, it ran northeasterly from the N.H. line, and there were many islands and inland rivers.
THOMAS (1) was at Arrowsic Island & Parker’s Island, Kennebec & Falmouth
MICHAEL(2), b. Abt. 1639, was at Falmouth, Purpooduck & Kittery before settling at Gloucester, Mass.
EDWARD, b. Abt. 1665, was at Portsmouth, N.H. in 1678, probably at Kennebec 1679-88 (LIBBY)
RICHARD “Sr”, (older), b. Abt 1638 was at Spurwink & at Isle of Shoals, before settling at Portsmouth, N.H. No sons.
RICHARD “Jr.” (younger), b. Abt. 1641, was at “Casco Bay” before Marblehead.
THOMAS (1) went to Charlestown, Mass., son JOHN (2) to Boston, SAMUEL (2) to York, JOSEPH (2) to Yarmouth, Mass., JAMES(2) & NATHANIEL (2) to Charlestown & Boston. SAMUEL(3) Jr., died at York, brother JOHN (3) supp. at Wells (or at North Yarmouth?); THOMAS (3) was perh. At Augusta, (his presumed son EDMUND (4) res. Wells). WAITSTILL(3) went to Harpswell; BENJAMIN(3) & JOSEPH not traced from Y. JAMES(3)(JOSEPH2, THOMAS1) CAME TO Kittery, according to LIBBY
“Casco Bay” (approximately the Falmouth -Kennebec River Area) is named as prior residence of RICHARD(1) of Marblehead, Mass., and as birth place of Nathan, son of MICHAEL(1) - Another coincidence?
JOHN(2), son of RICHARD (1) above, was early at Wells, perh. Later at Scarboro, a younger JOHN, son of EDMUND above, resided at Wells, and Edmond Jr., STEPHEN, GEORGE, & SAMUEL were also there.
Another SAMUEL was at Isle of Shoals, (in the middle of the Piscataque River, between Portsmouth, NH & Kittery, Maine, married there in 1766; still another at Edgecomb in 1790 census.
DANIAL & PAUL were at Sanford in 1790, and Paul (Jr.?) settled at Alfred; a STEPHEN is linked with Action & Shapely.
Vassalboro, (about 40 miles north of Bath); WILLIAM(5) (NATHANIEL(4) TO Castine & Penobscot, (about 50 miles North East of Bristol. Saco-Biddeford records, if probed, might reveal more WEBBERS there; “Anundel” (_____________) had some at early date.
Many but far from all of the early Maine vital records were copied for the Index centralized at the office of the Secretary of State at Augusta; numerous Town Clerks did not ________, however.
age S-57
Of many people cooperating in this Webber Project, our special thanks to:
1. Mrs. Olive (Webber) Edgett, 71 Ayer St., Rochester, NY 14615 (descendant of Edmund of Portsmouth, NH and of Wells Me, and --by another line — of Thomas1 ).
2. Mrs. Clara Pattern Bowen, 177 Second Street, Hallowell, Me 04347; descendant of Isaac6 Jr. (Isaac5, Samuel4, Richard3, Joseph2, Thomas1), so helpful with Maine records.
3. Mr. George Harvey, PO Box 60671, Sacramento, CA 95260; also a descendent of Isaac6.Jr. ---sending many notes from his collection, and Xerox sheets from Plymouth NH History.
4. Mrs. Hazel G. McDonald, RFD 1, Newcastle, ME 04553; descendents, Charles4 (Joseph3,
Samuel2, Thomas1,) very cooperative with local Maine research.
5. Mr. David L. Thompson, 9 Mape St., Plainville, MA 022762 ; descendent of Jonathan4 (Richard3. Joseph2, Thomas1), contributing numerous Xerox copies of Mass. Vital Records.
6. Miss Donna Boltjes, 1528 Caudor St., Leucadia, CA 92024; decendent of John of Rehobeth, sending Xerox copies of Washburn’s Richard Webber and of Button’s Webber Families.
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