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Re: Sally and Mary Jane Payne
Posted by: Constance Peck (ID *****8980) Date: May 18, 2009 at 06:13:55
In Reply to: Sally and Mary Jane Payne by rommia webb of 7465

ON THIS SAME PAGE ARE DOWNS AND PAYNES
MORE DOWNS ARE ON THE NEXT PAGE

1880 United States Federal Census > Kentucky > Nelson > District 8 > District 211
John Payne 46
Susan M. Payne 41
Thomas V. Payne 20
Henry Payne 18
William Payne 16
Lizzie F. Payne 14
Treasy A. Payne 12
Alexander Payne 10
Edward Payne 6
Mary E. Payne 4
Anna S. Payne 2


FROM SOME OF THE DEATH RECORDS I FIND THAT DOWNS AND PAYNES ARE CONNECTED

FOR EXAMPLE
Kentucky Death Records, 1852-1953

Name: Thomas Payne
Death Date: 9 Jun 1919
Death Location: Nelson
Residence Location: Nelson
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White
Birth Date: 1858
Birth Location: Nelson
Father's Name: John Payne
Father's Birth Location: Nelson
Mother's Name: Susan Mary Downs
Mother's Birth Location: Nelson

THIS LOOKS LIKE A RELATIONSHIP MAYBE A BROTHER TO THE GIRLS
Kentucky Death Records, 1852-1953

Name: John Edward Payne
Death Date: 8 Jul 1951
Death Location: Nelson
Residence Location: Nelson
Age: 77
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1874
Birth Location: Nelson, Kentucky
Father's Name: John Payne
Mother's Name: Mary Susan Payne

IF YOU LOOK AT THE 1880 CENSUS A LOT OF THE NAMES ARE VERY CLOSE...MARY SUSAN AND SUSAN M ARE PROBABLY THE SAME PERSON


YOU SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER THAT SALLY COULD BE A NICKNAME, MIDDLE NAME AND BIRTH YEAR CAN BE OFF...MARY JANE WAS REFERRED TO AS JANIE IN SOME RECORDS...

FIRST/SECOND, ETC COUSIN MARRIAGES HAPPEN,
I KNOW THEY HAPPENED IN MY FAMILY

I DID FIND THESE BIRTH RECORDS
Kentucky Birth Records, 1852-1910
Name: Margaret Ann Payne
[Margaret Ann]
Birth Date: Nov 1861
Birth County: Nelson
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Female
Father's Name: John Payne
Mother's Name: Susan Mary Downs
County of Residence: Nelson

Name: Thomas Vincent Payne [SEE DC ABOVE]
Birth Date: Sep 1859
Birth County: Nelson
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Father's Name: John Payne
Mother's Name: Susan M Downs

Name: John E [SEE DC ABOVE]
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1874
Birth County: Nelson
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Father's Name: John Payne
Mother's Name: Susan M Downs
County of Residence: Nelson

SO THERE WAS A COUPLE NAMED JOHN PAYNE & SUSAN MARY[OR MARY SUSAN] DOWNS

I WAS ABT TO POST THIS WHEN I FOUND THIS
Kentucky Marriage Records, 1852-1914

Name: Susan M Downs
Age: 21
Est. Birth Year: abt 1834
Birth Location: Nelson
RESIDENCE: Nelson
Spouse Name: John Payne
Spouse Age: 21
Est. Spouse Birth Year: abt 1834
Spouse Birth Location: Nelson
Spouse Residence: Nelson
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1855
County of Record: Nelson


1860 United States Federal Census

Name: John Payne
Age in 1860: 24
Birth Year: abt 1836
Home in 1860: District 1, Nelson, Kentucky
Gender: Female
Post Office: Poplar Neck
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
John Payne 24
Susan Payne 21
Ann Payne 3
Thos Payne 11.12



I AM NOT RELATED


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