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(5gf) Robert Carlisle 1734/40-1786 NC
(6gf) William Carlisle 1710-5/1769 NC
(7gf) Richard Carlisle 1674VA-<4/8/1739 VA
note that these three have "Carlile" as alternative spelling. after the revolutionary war, the spelling was the traditional "Carlisle"
Richard was born in 1674->my sources say Prince George County, VA. he was married in 1691 (age 17) to mary tatum (age 13) of Henrico county, VA., and later married to a Chamblis.
religion&location: although methodists were predominant in this line at later dates, it is most likely that richard and his immediate antecedants were anglican/episcopalian. this narrows the search for church records and grave sites, which i think are the best bet for locating richard's father. Richard's son william was b.?d. in edgecombe county,NC. From these three locations we should be able to narrow the most probable resting place of richard's father to one of a couple dozen graveyards. now all i have to do is find the time and money to go on that goose chase.
i have 3 different hypothesis to answer my own question about who jumped the puddle. i list them here, in order from the least probable to the most probable.
1) aliens. no. just kidding.
1) Christopher Carliell arrived in VA in 1586, with drake, (after sacking the capital of Espanola,) to check on the progress of the original Roanoke colony. the drake/carliell expidition left them a ship and 15 men. i do not have the names of those left behind, so it's possible that Carliell was one of them, (or that he got one of the colonists pregnant) and this line could be traced back to him. if this were the case there should be some reference somewhere of the hateras or lumbee indians in pre-richard genealogy. Note that Raliegh didn't bother looking for the colonists when he didn't find them where he left them. the greatest probable answers to this mystery of the disappearing colony are simply that they either a) tried to sail back to england in the boat that the Drake/Carliell expidition left them and sank on the way, OR that the spaniards followed the expedition to the colony and sacked them in retribution.
2) it is possible that richard's father or grandfather could have paid for their own passage and landed anywhere from philadelphia (and took the great wagon road south) to carolina. the difficulty here is that i have not found a single carlisle (or varient thereof) disembarking as a passenger from any ship between 1620 and 1691, the year that Richard married mary tatum. of course, none of these lists are comprehensive, and even if they were, they don't account for sailors or mariners who decided to jump ship once they arrived in the new world.
3) in 1650, after the battle of dunbar, cromwell spent 2 years sending the 1400 captured lowland scots to the americas (1200 of them to Virginia) as indentured servants. the money recieved of course went to the coffers of cromwell's government. we know that Leslie's army was largly cavalry and that Carlisles were notable cavalrymen. We also know that Richard Bruce was among those sent (and annother bruce a couple of years later) to virginia and that Carlisle is a sept of the Bruce clan.
it is reasonable to assume that a carlisle was among those captured and sold. many of those captured changed the spelling of their names so that the balance of their family wouldn't suffer the wrath of the lord protector.
regardless, if this hypothesis holds, then the most likely indenture would be along the lines of a ferrier or blacksmith. note here that the majority of those sold at boston went to work at the Saugus iron mill, so marketable skills may not have been a factor in the indenture.
i still think that the key to finding richards father is his gravestone. if we can find that, we may be able to validate a reasonable line.
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